What a way to turn me and other people off of a series
do I even have to ask for thoughts?
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sayshoe2025-10-12 18:34
Oh man that’s disappointing. You’d think Marvel of all studios wouldn’t need to do “AI touchups”.
skilledgamer552025-10-12 18:35
Que the one thing Jason blum just said
bereft_of_me2025-10-12 18:35
Looks like they asked AI to make a mash-up of Harrison Ford as Han Solo, and Tom Brady.
FewWatermelonlesson02025-10-12 18:35
Bruh you’re one of the biggest entrainment companies on the planet. You can just pay competent artists.
Crafted_Pickaxe212025-10-12 18:50
It says there were artists making the original piece. They just wanted to touch it up a bit.
GhostPepperEyeWash2025-10-12 18:37
I thought Wonder Man is black. Am I thinking of the wrong show?
Stoic_Ravenclaw2025-10-12 18:40
In universe there was a wonder man movie in the 80s. In the show it's being remade with a black guy cast as the lead. There's going to be some meta commentary on superhero fatigue and "race swapping'.
GhostPepperEyeWash2025-10-12 18:44
So, was there a Wonder Man in Marvel comics? Is this guy even the same one from the comics? It seems like they are just using the Wonder Man name.
Kinky-Cookie-Cutter2025-10-12 18:47
wonder man was an actor in the comics
bushwickauslaender2025-10-12 18:43
Did you watch the trailer? Because the premise of the show is >!that Wonder Man is an in-universe superhero franchise from the 60's or 70's that is being rebooted (originally it's the white guy in the poster) and the protagonist (Yahya Abdul-Mateen II) is cast in said reboot!<
GhostPepperEyeWash2025-10-12 18:47
Was that the premise of the comic book also?
bushwickauslaender2025-10-12 18:51
I've never read the comic books, so honestly I don't know. From my understanding of internet discussions I've seen about the show, it's something like that but the >!in-universe franchise reboot!< component in particular is not always a part of the comic book storyline. The part about Wonder-Man >!being an actor!< is definitely always in there though.
HereWeFuckingGooo2025-10-12 18:52
Is Google down or something?
GhostPepperEyeWash2025-10-12 18:57
No, but whats the point of Reddit if you can't ask questions and receive answers from more knowledgable people? Did my question trigger you? You could have just ignored it.
HereWeFuckingGooo2025-10-12 19:06
I love it when people say *just ignore it* while not ignoring a comment themselves.
N8CCRG2025-10-12 18:39
My thoughts are who the fuck is this twitter account and why should we believe it? Even if it is AI-generated, there's no way they openly said that at the booth. This is 100% manufactured outrage engagement farming by that twitter account.
JargonJohn2025-10-12 18:44
>This is 100% manufactured outrage engagement farming by that twitter account.
And judging from the replies it's working.
matty_nice2025-10-12 18:46
Well they said AI assisted/touched up, which is different from being completely generated by AI.
Also, not sure what kind of verification process you want for this.
RihoSucks2025-10-12 18:50
Something more believable than random twitter account asked a person at a convention booth
matty_nice2025-10-12 18:54
I would agree if this was something out of the ordinary, but stuff like this is going to be completely believeable (IMO). AI is already so prevalent and easily accessible, why wouldn't they?
https://www.thewrap.com/disney-ai-initiative/
When stuff like this is reported, what exactly did you think it would mean? You think Marvel stuff was going to be exempt?
RihoSucks2025-10-12 18:57
I dont think anything, but I also dont listen to random Twitter accounts about anything.
matty_nice2025-10-12 18:58
> I dont think anything
Clearly.
Lol. Sorry, you left yourself open to that one.
RihoSucks2025-10-12 19:00
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onekeanui2025-10-12 18:40
Totally agree. Imagine one of the dominant "comic" companies using AI amidst all the backlash for AI generated content. End of the day its all about money. AI generated stuff is probably faster then paying (or underpaying) an intern to clean up something. It's pretty sad.
I talked so a guy that owned a comic shop that did work on Iron Man 2 and even he said they pay crap but for him working on that IP was worth it. Economics rules the world we live in now sadly.
Throwupmyhands2025-10-12 18:40
Whos this random twitterer
bushwickauslaender2025-10-12 18:40
AFAIK, the Photoshop GenAI tools are comparatively shittier than the likes of Midjourney precisely because they're more ethical in the training data that they use (read: they don't just steal from the whole internet as training).
They're also not at all in the realm of "create a movie poster" and more like "replace this section of this poster" and can allow you to iterate things like, for example, the planet in the top right/background of the Wonder Man poster (e.g. is it a solid planet with craters or does it have more of an atmosphere like Jupiter's). A serious designer can use that to quickly try out multiple very different options before committing to it and properly illustrate what best represents their artistic vision.
I'm not defending their use of AI because I don't know how exactly they used it, but the use case I described is far more acceptable and just another tool in the arsenal of a modern day illustrator. It's not necessarily some hack inputting "imagine a 70's style super hero poster".
Edit: Formatting
luckypierre72025-10-12 18:40
Any movie or tv that uses AI makes me feel way more comfortable torrenting or watching them illegally. If movie studios are able to rip off their employees by no longer hiring people to work on various production aspects, I take that as a go ahead to rip them off by not paying for their product.
TheGrumble2025-10-12 20:14
If you object to it that strongly, why watch it at all?
luckypierre72025-10-12 23:18
I’ve been a fan of marvel, and specifically x-men since I was a kid. I’ve read decades of comics and love the characters. I’ve enjoyed most of the movies and tv shows they’ve released despite the downturn in quality. I can object to business practices while simultaneously enjoying the product.
pedroktp2025-10-12 18:41
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HereWeFuckingGooo2025-10-12 18:50
The AI intro to Secret Invasion was the best part about that show. I don't understand why people got so upset by it when it was done obviously and deliberately for a specific purpose.
arongadark2025-10-12 18:42
AI assisted photoshop is already being used in almost every industry, at least Marvel is being honest about it.
bushwickauslaender2025-10-12 18:47
It's also more to adjust specific sections of a visual rather than just flat out create something from start like all those fools on the internet that post a shitty picture/video going "hOllYwOoD iS cOoKeD"
matty_nice2025-10-12 18:48
I would assume that Disney/Marvel already do it to a great extent.
Bish_Fantastic2025-10-12 18:44
And then everyone clapped
BackgroundWindchimes2025-10-12 18:45
I mentioned this last night and my comment is probably at a -40 with all the comments saying they aren’t, that I’m lying, that there’s no proof despite Marvel having used AI for multiple things in the past.
HereWeFuckingGooo2025-10-12 18:53
Multiple things you say? Well that sounds like solid evidence to me!
BasedAustralhungary2025-10-12 18:46
This is literally the ethic use of AI. Using It as assisted tool for artistic work. Sorry to touch your precious and pure bubble, but even AI was used in Into the Spiderverse and Across the Spiderverse.
The problem is not AI. The problem is how companies could try to use It as a way to reduce economic loses or even to make It possible to pay less for the workers or even don't pay workers.
HereWeFuckingGooo2025-10-12 18:51
People are luddites and think AI is a magic button that creates whatever a person wants.
Beeman6162025-10-12 18:46
"The folks at Marvel's booth" nice and vague.
This may be true, but could also be complete BS made up by a cout chaser. If it gets confirmed by a reputable source, then I'll be disappointed. Until then, I shall remain sceptical of this report.
matty_nice2025-10-12 18:51
> "The folks at Marvel's booth" nice and vague.
Could you tell me your name and position at the company so that I can be fully descriptive when I make a twitter post about this?
Beeman6162025-10-12 19:02
I get your point, but equally it allows for the person tweeting this to act as though their source gave them false info, rather than admit they made shit up. What booth? Where? Are these people actually involved in creating said artwork, or are they just low paid schlubs who dont know much about it? So, yeah, vague.
matty_nice2025-10-12 19:10
You're expecting a level of journalism that is far beyond what you should be expecting from a twitter user.
Maybe you would have asked the same questions as the twitter user, but you would have never gone into such details. Look at how many other reports or tweets we get from conventions where that level of detail isn't asked (what booth, where, who said it, whats their invovlement with the project) and yet no fans question it.
Just think you're being super critical. Maybe you want to protect Marvel Studios here. Even though we have reports taht diesnt is using AI in post production VFX.
Beeman6162025-10-12 19:23
Id never use twitter in the first place tbh.
HereWeFuckingGooo2025-10-12 18:47
I swear people don't understand what AI actually is. Photoshop has AI tools like Generative Fill/Expand. Just because an artist possibly used AI in the process doesn't mean the whole thing is AI generated.
And before everyone grabs their torches and pitchforks, this is a random person on the internet claiming to have spoken to an unnamed person at a Marvel Booth. It's not exactly rock hard confirmation of anything. There have been instances in the past where an artist's work has been mistaken for AI when it wasn't and these witchhunts do more harm to artists than an AI tool in Photoshop ever will.
Mostlyfor_research2025-10-12 18:47
It’s some art work on a lunchbox or something I couldn’t give a fuck personally even if I believed that whole conversation even took place.
TJBacon2025-10-12 18:47
If this one AI-assisted poster puts you off watching a series that hundreds of people have put work into that AI is nowhere near, you were never going to watch anyway.
Feeling_Bedroom55332025-10-12 18:49
From the looks of it, the individual images appear to have been created using generative AI. Then they were composited together to create the desired layout.
I’d say with 99% certainty that the man and woman were created with AI though.
TheGrumble2025-10-12 18:51
What so Photoshop adds AI features and you expect Photoshop users *not* to use them? Or for Disney to tell their designers not to?
I'm as anti-slop as the next guy but this is not that.
Traditional_Basil5572025-10-12 20:51
They put a shit button in and you expect me not to press the shit button????
It's bad for many reasons but also it just looks like ass.
TheGrumble2025-10-12 21:11
It's a world of shit buttons, we're all pressing them.
HereWeFuckingGooo2025-10-13 00:39
You obviously don't understand what the AI tools [actually do](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zfce_gIfw0).
DontDoodleTheNoodle2025-10-13 02:03
Many people don’t understand any of the things they hate. That’s how neophobia has always been for millennia
Traditional_Basil5572025-10-19 15:56
Lmao, "Ai tools" get out of here with that stuff
HereWeFuckingGooo2025-10-19 16:04
You obviously don't understand what AI tools even are.
Gotchapawn2025-10-12 18:51
Ai assists already being used by alot of people now, without them knowing, your phones have ai.
Also saying this turned you off when its just a promotion from somewhere? To an x post even.
If you wanna hate on a series hate it after youve seen it. This is just a promotional thing. If my guts are right the AI here are the lunchbox and the VHS or book not sure but the artwork is not. There are things to hate because of AI stuff but as a tool and if used right it can be helpful.
What did you guys think stuff like this would really mean?
lastersoftheuniverse2025-10-12 18:57
Marvel booth person:
SeekerVash2025-10-12 19:00
OP, I've got some terrible news for you.
We've been using "AI" for a wide variety of functions in software development for a decade now. Whether it's static code analysis, merge/code review tools, security analysis, test identification, UI automation, etc.
So you'd better toss out every piece of software you use, AI's touched it all!
Homesterkid2025-10-12 19:03
Bruh is it that deep? Every single studio is using AI at this point. Are we going to get riled up every single time it’s mentioned that they use it?
missingpeace012025-10-12 20:43
Animation is now being sped up by AI. Y'all like these great movies to finish faster so animators do not get overworked.
marvelcomics222025-10-13 04:08
They used AI for the props? So? It's not like the show was made using AI, the props were.
Repulsive_Season_9082025-10-13 08:10
This anti-AI panic is getting annoying.
9FingeredFrodo2025-10-13 15:27
I think they are intentionally doing a parody of those fake AI trailers on YouTube. Like “what if Star Wars was a 1950s sci-fi B movie?”.
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And judging from the replies it's working.
Also, not sure what kind of verification process you want for this.
https://www.thewrap.com/disney-ai-initiative/
When stuff like this is reported, what exactly did you think it would mean? You think Marvel stuff was going to be exempt?
Clearly.
Lol. Sorry, you left yourself open to that one.
I talked so a guy that owned a comic shop that did work on Iron Man 2 and even he said they pay crap but for him working on that IP was worth it. Economics rules the world we live in now sadly.
They're also not at all in the realm of "create a movie poster" and more like "replace this section of this poster" and can allow you to iterate things like, for example, the planet in the top right/background of the Wonder Man poster (e.g. is it a solid planet with craters or does it have more of an atmosphere like Jupiter's). A serious designer can use that to quickly try out multiple very different options before committing to it and properly illustrate what best represents their artistic vision.
I'm not defending their use of AI because I don't know how exactly they used it, but the use case I described is far more acceptable and just another tool in the arsenal of a modern day illustrator. It's not necessarily some hack inputting "imagine a 70's style super hero poster".
Edit: Formatting
The problem is not AI. The problem is how companies could try to use It as a way to reduce economic loses or even to make It possible to pay less for the workers or even don't pay workers.
This may be true, but could also be complete BS made up by a cout chaser. If it gets confirmed by a reputable source, then I'll be disappointed. Until then, I shall remain sceptical of this report.
Could you tell me your name and position at the company so that I can be fully descriptive when I make a twitter post about this?
Maybe you would have asked the same questions as the twitter user, but you would have never gone into such details. Look at how many other reports or tweets we get from conventions where that level of detail isn't asked (what booth, where, who said it, whats their invovlement with the project) and yet no fans question it.
Just think you're being super critical. Maybe you want to protect Marvel Studios here. Even though we have reports taht diesnt is using AI in post production VFX.
And before everyone grabs their torches and pitchforks, this is a random person on the internet claiming to have spoken to an unnamed person at a Marvel Booth. It's not exactly rock hard confirmation of anything. There have been instances in the past where an artist's work has been mistaken for AI when it wasn't and these witchhunts do more harm to artists than an AI tool in Photoshop ever will.
I’d say with 99% certainty that the man and woman were created with AI though.
I'm as anti-slop as the next guy but this is not that.
It's bad for many reasons but also it just looks like ass.
Also saying this turned you off when its just a promotion from somewhere? To an x post even.
If you wanna hate on a series hate it after youve seen it. This is just a promotional thing. If my guts are right the AI here are the lunchbox and the VHS or book not sure but the artwork is not. There are things to hate because of AI stuff but as a tool and if used right it can be helpful.
*Edit*
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/disney-ai-movies-tv-3-195724208.html
What did you guys think stuff like this would really mean?
We've been using "AI" for a wide variety of functions in software development for a decade now. Whether it's static code analysis, merge/code review tools, security analysis, test identification, UI automation, etc.
So you'd better toss out every piece of software you use, AI's touched it all!